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Speed of Detection
« on: Jan 2nd, 2003, 7:29pm »		 Quote Quote  Modify Modify
Hi all,
 
I have just ran the Simulator and I was surprise at how long it took TH Guard 2.54 to detect it. It takes between 2 and 3 seconds on my machine after installing before TH Guard finds it. I am running an AMD Athlon 2000+ with 512Mb RAM with Win XP Home SP1. Am I right in thinking that this takes a long time or are my expectations to high? Anyone have any similar comparisons?
 
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Re: Speed of Detection
« Reply #1 on: Jan 2nd, 2003, 8:01pm »		 Quote Quote  Modify Modify
   Hello  , acheton  
 
    Also  with W.XP home SP-1 , but with a slower machine (PIII, 866MHz , 384RAM) .
     In my case  THGuard also takes 2/3 seconds to appear .I really don't know if it is important , as you have to consider that the delay is related to THGuard' graphics , probably its engine is faster --- of course zero expertise here behind  my conclusion.
   Anyway  we both see that processor and RAM have little influence here .  
 
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« Reply #2 on: Jan 2nd, 2003, 8:19pm »		 Quote Quote  Modify Modify
Interesting, I wonder whether TH Guard works by simply scanning processes periodically or whether it catches a process as it starts.  
 
I think that the graphics is a bit of a red herring though, TH Scanner only takes a couple of seconds to open and that is at least twice the size of TH Guard.
 
May be it isn't important.
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« Reply #3 on: Jan 3rd, 2003, 11:30am »		 Quote Quote  Modify Modify
I checked using just a second hand on a clock, not a stop watch. I'm using an AMD Athlon XP 1900 with raid enabled, PC 2700 512 mb, and WinXP. It took 2 seconds at the most for the TGuard to slam it. I'm using TH 2.54.
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« Reply #4 on: Jan 4th, 2003, 3:21pm »		 Quote Quote  Modify Modify
I thought that I read that a competing product (BO....) will find trojans in memory within 10 seconds which is enough time to prevent havoc, so maybe 2 or 3 seconds is pretty good.
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Re: Speed of Detection
« Reply #5 on: Jan 6th, 2003, 12:15am »		 Quote Quote  Modify Modify
Rav, this was posted to securecomp last month by Nancy,
"BOClean 4.10 is a bit different, it scans the registry and memory that is not being used (like that holding a minimized program) every 10 seconds.  Active memory surveillance is continuous, detection are instantaneous.  We put a lot of work into this one."
 
I always wanted to look at that proggie, but alas no trial...
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Re: Speed of Detection
« Reply #6 on: Jan 28th, 2003, 6:13am »		 Quote Quote  Modify Modify
on Jan 6th, 2003, 12:15am, redleg wrote:
Rav, this was posted to securecomp last month by Nancy,
"BOClean 4.10 is a bit different, it scans the registry and memory that is not being used (like that holding a minimized program) every 10 seconds.  Active memory surveillance is continuous, detection are instantaneous.  We put a lot of work into this one."
 
I always wanted to look at that proggie, but alas no trial...

 
I can tell you, I had to personally call Digital River to get my money back, because of their "no trial" policy..Nancy from Privacy Software Corp ignored EVERY Email I sent (only 2) pertaining to my wanting my money back... Bad business, if you ask me...Since they had no trial, I took them up on their 30 days "no hassles" money back guarantee... I did not care for it, and they lost!
 
And for anyone that tells you, you don't need an on demand scanner, I strongly disagree!  My nephew downloaded a zip file which contained a trojjie (NetDevil 150). Yeah, I know, it's harmless if it's not working., but hey, you know?  I want my computer clean!  TrojanHunter detected it easily in an on demand scan...  
 
In that short period I had BOClean, it did detect Trojan Simulator, and cleaned it, I just did not like the lack of an on demand scanner, and I think Trojan Hunter tells you more info in what it cleans...
 
I had TDS-3, too... It was okay, but it was WAY too complicated for me, and I didn't the need for it. Plus, it was very "intense" on my system, causing constant freeze ups, etc...
 
FYI, I am still trialing TrojanHunter, and I like it, but I want to take my time this time before I spend my money.. I most like ly will, though...
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Re: Speed of Detection
« Reply #7 on: Jan 28th, 2003, 6:16am »		 Quote Quote  Modify Modify
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Re: Speed of Detection
« Reply #8 on: Feb 13th, 2003, 4:11am »		 Quote Quote  Modify Modify
on Jan 2nd, 2003, 7:29pm, acheton wrote:
Hi all,
 
I have just ran the Simulator and I was surprise at how long it took TH Guard 2.54 to detect it. It takes between 2 and 3 seconds on my machine after installing before TH Guard finds it. I am running an AMD Athlon 2000+ with 512Mb RAM with Win XP Home SP1. Am I right in thinking that this takes a long time or are my expectations to high? Anyone have any similar comparisons?
 
Cheers,
 
 
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I'm running an Athlon 2000+ with 512MB RAM, Win2K, and the Guard took absolutely no more than 2 seconds to detgect it. The insdtallation dialog box had just appeared when the Guard popped up - no stopwatch but it would have been in the 1-2 second range, rather than 2-3.
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Re: Speed of Detection
« Reply #9 on: Mar 12th, 2003, 1:32pm »		 Quote Quote  Modify Modify
hi  
i'm running 1ghz pentium with 256 ram and i have to say that detection of the trojan simulator was actually lightning fast...
same with gav test virus Grin
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Re: Speed of Detection
« Reply #10 on: Mar 12th, 2003, 5:01pm »		 Quote Quote  Modify Modify
Hi illukka,
 
Thanks for the feedback and welcome to the forum.  Smiley
 
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