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Problem manually updating trial version
« on: Nov 25th, 2007, 11:38pm »		 Quote Quote  Modify Modify
Hello.
 
I just downloaded the latest trial version of TrojanHunter, and I am having trouble getting the definitions to update.  Right after installation, when you click on the "Trojans" button, it says "You are using update 2007-09-07".  As expected, if I try LiveUpdate, it tells me I need the licensed version.  So I closed TrojanHunter, went to http://www.misec.net/trojanhunter/updating/, downloaded the manual update, and followed the instructions.  I extracted the archive and copied the files over to "C:\Program Files\TrojanHunter\RuleFiles", overwriting the existing ruleset.  I can see that the filenames of the definitions in that folder include "G20071114_1753.trf", which says to me that my definitions should be updated to at least 2007-11-14.  However, when I run TrojanHunter again and click on the "Trojans" button, it still says "You are using update 2007-09-07".
 
Am I doing something wrong?  How can I get my definitions updated properly?
 
I'm running Windows XP Pro SP2 w/ all the latest updates and 1GB of RAM.  I'm using TrojanHunter 5.0, Build 950, Trial Version.  I also have Symantec AntiVirus 10.1 installed.  I tried this same update procedure on two other computers (known to be clean of infections), both running XP Pro, and I got the same results.
 
Thanks for your help.
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Re: Problem manually updating trial version
« Reply #1 on: Nov 26th, 2007, 12:00am »		 Quote Quote  Modify Modify
One more thing I just noticed, which actually just confuses me more: while the date has not changed after manual updates, the number of ruleset entries has changed.
 
So, does that mean I have up-to-date definitions or not?
 
Here's a comparison of what I get when I click the "Details..." link under the "Trojans" button before and after the manual update.
Before update (fresh install):
Code:
+-- General ---------------------------------
Ruleset datestamp    : 2007-09-07
Scan kernel     : 5.0 (Aurelius)
Ruleset entries      : 140590
Trojan definitions   : 54464
Detection rules      : 140590
 
+-- Loaded rule files -----------------------
 
     0: Cumulative20060322.trf
     1: G20060322_0800.trf
     2: G20060331_0444.trf
     3: G20060409_1917.trf
     4: G20060417_1740.trf
     5: G20060422_1609.trf
     6: G20060429_0134.trf
     7: G20060504_0530.trf
     8: G20060510_1522.trf
     9: G20060520_0846.trf
    10: G20060528_2029.trf
    11: G20060606_0904.trf
    12: G20060612_2002.trf
    13: G20060619_2213.trf
    14: G20060627_1340.trf
    15: G20060707_1649.trf
    16: G20060717_2356.trf
    17: G20060728_1243.trf
    18: G20060807_1400.trf
    19: G20060817_1509.trf
    20: G20060825_1530.trf
    21: G20060902_1407.trf
    22: G20060911_1127.trf
    23: G20060919_1438.trf
    24: G20060928_1013.trf
    25: G20061005_1432.trf
    26: G20061012_2234.trf
    27: G20061023_1121.trf
    28: G20061030_1702.trf
    29: G20061107_1033.trf
    30: G20061116_0952.trf
    31: G20061125_1021.trf
    32: G20061203_0254.trf
    33: G20061212_2302.trf
    34: G20061220_1027.trf
    35: G20061228_1031.trf
    36: G20070104_1030.trf
    37: G20070111_1513.trf
    38: G20070119_1149.trf
    39: G20070125_1420.trf
    40: G20070203_1141.trf
    41: G20070210_1039.trf
    42: G20070218_1105.trf
    43: G20070226_2039.trf
    44: G20070306_1255.trf
    45: G20070314_0833.trf
    46: G20070322_1154.trf
    47: G20070402_1157.trf
    48: G20070411_1534.trf
    49: G20070420_1145.trf
    50: G20070428_1233.trf
    51: G20070506_1124.trf
    52: G20070513_1209.trf
    53: G20070524_1054.trf
    54: G20070529_2214.trf
    55: G20070604_1137.trf
    56: G20070613_1102.trf
    57: G20070621_2034.trf
    58: G20070629_1051.trf
    59: G20070708_2040.trf
    60: G20070717_1120.trf
    61: G20070727_1137.trf
    62: G20070805_1157.trf
    63: G20070813_1018.trf
    64: G20070821_0541.trf
    65: G20070902_1137.trf
    66: M20060322_0800.trf
 
+-- Generic file checker --------------------
Rule description     : Generic File Rules
Rule type       : Heuristic
Number of rules      : 0
 
+-- Registry checker ------------------------
Rule description     : Registry Rules
Rule type       : Registry
Number of rules      : 5655
 
+-- Inifile checker -------------------------
Rule description     : Inifile Rules
Rule type       : Inifile
Number of rules      : 74
 
+-- File checker ----------------------------
Rule description     : File Rules
Rule type       : File
Number of rules      : 10406
 
+-- Advanced File Checker -------------------
Rule description     : Advanced File Rules
Rule type       : NewFile
Number of rules      : 56861
 
+-- Port checker ----------------------------
Rule description     : Port Rules
Rule type       : Port
Number of rules      : 593
 
+-- Process checker -------------------------
Rule description     : Process Rules
Rule type       : Process
Number of rules      : 12246
 
+-- Script checker --------------------------
Rule description     : Script Rules
Rule type       : Script
Number of rules      : 291

After manual update on 2007-11-25:
Code:
+-- General ---------------------------------
Ruleset datestamp    : 2007-09-07
Scan kernel     : 5.0 (Aurelius)
Ruleset entries      : 141489
Trojan definitions   : 54808
Detection rules      : 141489
 
+-- Loaded rule files -----------------------
 
     0: Cumulative20060322.trf
     1: G20060322_0800.trf
     2: G20060331_0444.trf
     3: G20060409_1917.trf
     4: G20060417_1740.trf
     5: G20060422_1609.trf
     6: G20060429_0134.trf
     7: G20060504_0530.trf
     8: G20060510_1522.trf
     9: G20060520_0846.trf
    10: G20060528_2029.trf
    11: G20060606_0904.trf
    12: G20060612_2002.trf
    13: G20060619_2213.trf
    14: G20060627_1340.trf
    15: G20060707_1649.trf
    16: G20060717_2356.trf
    17: G20060728_1243.trf
    18: G20060807_1400.trf
    19: G20060817_1509.trf
    20: G20060825_1530.trf
    21: G20060902_1407.trf
    22: G20060911_1127.trf
    23: G20060919_1438.trf
    24: G20060928_1013.trf
    25: G20061005_1432.trf
    26: G20061012_2234.trf
    27: G20061023_1121.trf
    28: G20061030_1702.trf
    29: G20061107_1033.trf
    30: G20061116_0952.trf
    31: G20061125_1021.trf
    32: G20061203_0254.trf
    33: G20061212_2302.trf
    34: G20061220_1027.trf
    35: G20061228_1031.trf
    36: G20070104_1030.trf
    37: G20070111_1513.trf
    38: G20070119_1149.trf
    39: G20070125_1420.trf
    40: G20070203_1141.trf
    41: G20070210_1039.trf
    42: G20070218_1105.trf
    43: G20070226_2039.trf
    44: G20070306_1255.trf
    45: G20070314_0833.trf
    46: G20070322_1154.trf
    47: G20070402_1157.trf
    48: G20070411_1534.trf
    49: G20070420_1145.trf
    50: G20070428_1233.trf
    51: G20070506_1124.trf
    52: G20070513_1209.trf
    53: G20070524_1054.trf
    54: G20070529_2214.trf
    55: G20070604_1137.trf
    56: G20070613_1102.trf
    57: G20070621_2034.trf
    58: G20070629_1051.trf
    59: G20070708_2040.trf
    60: G20070717_1120.trf
    61: G20070727_1137.trf
    62: G20070805_1157.trf
    63: G20070813_1018.trf
    64: G20070821_0541.trf
    65: G20070902_1137.trf
    66: M20060322_0800.trf
 
+-- Generic file checker --------------------
Rule description     : Generic File Rules
Rule type       : Heuristic
Number of rules      : 0
 
+-- Registry checker ------------------------
Rule description     : Registry Rules
Rule type       : Registry
Number of rules      : 5693
 
+-- Inifile checker -------------------------
Rule description     : Inifile Rules
Rule type       : Inifile
Number of rules      : 74
 
+-- File checker ----------------------------
Rule description     : File Rules
Rule type       : File
Number of rules      : 10464
 
+-- Advanced File Checker -------------------
Rule description     : Advanced File Rules
Rule type       : NewFile
Number of rules      : 57226
 
+-- Port checker ----------------------------
Rule description     : Port Rules
Rule type       : Port
Number of rules      : 593
 
+-- Process checker -------------------------
Rule description     : Process Rules
Rule type       : Process
Number of rules      : 12340
 
+-- Script checker --------------------------
Rule description     : Script Rules
Rule type       : Script
Number of rules      : 291

Thanks.
 
Edit: formatting.
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Re: Problem manually updating trial version
« Reply #2 on: Nov 26th, 2007, 12:30am »		 Quote Quote  Modify Modify
Welcome to the forum ven42,   Cheesy
 
When doing the manual update, the date itself does not change.  The number of detection rules is what is tracked and you now have the latest updates as of 25-Nov-07.  
 
Gavin always posts the current number of rules when he posts the new additions in the Rules Set Updates section of the forum.
 
Sorry for the confusion.  
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Re: Problem manually updating trial version
« Reply #3 on: Nov 29th, 2007, 10:29pm »		 Quote Quote  Modify Modify
Hasn't been updated for a while, LiveUpdate was working with trial version as far as I know Wink did you download from this site ?
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Re: Problem manually updating trial version
« Reply #4 on: Nov 30th, 2007, 2:49am »		 Quote Quote  Modify Modify
Actually no, LiveUpdate is still disabled. I will check to see what the problem is (if any) with the manual updates.
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Re: Problem manually updating trial version
« Reply #5 on: Dec 1st, 2007, 10:19pm »		 Quote Quote  Modify Modify
on Nov 25th, 2007, 11:38pm, ven42 wrote:

 
-snip-
 
I'm using TrojanHunter 5.0, Build 950, Trial Version.  
 
-snip-
 

 
Hi,
 
Please allow me to jump in.
 
TH is (at this moment) at version 5.0, Build 962
 
I don't know why the trial version is not yet at that version/build number.  
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Re: Problem manually updating trial version
« Reply #6 on: Dec 1st, 2007, 10:28pm »		 Quote Quote  Modify Modify
More in general:
A question for Magnus, Gavin, and the moderators:
 
Is this FAQ still up-to-date :
How to Manually Update TH Rulesets?
http://www.misec.net/forum/board/FAQ/1142067076
 
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Re: Problem manually updating trial version
« Reply #7 on: Dec 1st, 2007, 11:56pm »		 Quote Quote  Modify Modify
Jrb,
 
Quote:
I don't know why the trial version is not yet at that version/build number.

 
The trial version automatically updates to build 962 using LiveUpdate one time to permit obtaining the latest version and the latest rulesets.  "Automatically" means that it asks the new user if he/she wishes to update when the TH GUI first opens.  Then LiveUpdate no longer functions.  
 
Quote:
Is this FAQ still up-to-date :  
How to Manually Update TH Rulesets?  
http://www.misec.net/forum/board/FAQ/1142067076

 
Yes, LiveUpdate does not work on the trial version and manual updates are required after the first and only use of LiveUpdate as described above.  
 
This may all change when Magnus releases the next update of TH V5.x.... I don't know.
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Re: Problem manually updating trial version
« Reply #8 on: Dec 2nd, 2007, 5:04pm »		 Quote Quote  Modify Modify
Thank you Siliconman !
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Re: Problem manually updating trial version
« Reply #9 on: Dec 8th, 2007, 3:20pm »		 Quote Quote  Modify Modify
Thanks to everyone for your responses.
 
I tried manually updating my trial version definitions again today using the exact same procedure as I did before, and everything worked fine this time.  The date is properly updated now.  Thanks to those who fixed the problem, and a big thank you to everyone involved in making TrojanHunter for your hard work.
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