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Big Brother DoT?
« on: Feb 22nd, 2003, 7:48pm »
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COMMENTS MUST BE RECEIVED BY FEB. 24. PLEASE SEND THEM OUT ASAP!  
 
SUMMARY: DOT has published its intent to establish a Big Brother system  
of records and is soliciting public comments. The DOT must consider the  
comments it receives before finalizing its actions. These comments were a  
big help last time around fighting National IDs in the guise of  
standardized state drivers licenses. Many fewer citizens have commented  
on DOT's proposed data collection, however, and time and liberties are  
running short. Information about the system is printed below, as is a  
short sample letter. Feel free to write something longer, but even a  
short statement of your opposition to the draconian record system and a  
signature would be helpful.  
 
The U.S. Department of Transportation (DOT) intends to establish a system  
of records which will collect information from all air travelers. DOT  
intends to release the information upon request to any agency "for the  
hiring or retention of an individual, or issuance of a security clearance,  
license, contract, grant, or other benefit."  
 
DOT also intends to disclose the information it collects to any "Federal,  
State, territorial, tribal, local, international, or foreign" agency when  
DOT becomes aware of any indication of any criminal or civil infraction of  
any "statute, rule, regulation, order, or license" by any person traveling  
by air. This applies even to citizens of the United States when flying  
within their own country.  
 
This is an outrageous assault on the Privacy Act, as well as an affront to  
the privacy of law abiding U.S. citizens. If you are concerned about the  
collection and disclosure of information from air travelers and want the  
DOT to rescind its proposal, please provide your comments to Yvonne L.  
Coates at the address below. Comments must be RECEIVED by February 24,  
2003, to be considered. A sample letter is also below.  
 
Yvonne L. Coates  
Department of Transportation  
Office of the Secretary  
400 7th Street, SW  
Washington, DC 20590  
 
(202) 366-6964 (telephone)  
(202) 366-7024 (fax)  
Yvonne.Coates@ost.dot.gov (Internet address)  
 
Reference: Federal Register, January 15, 2003, Volume 68, Number 10,  
Pages 2101-2103.  
 
----------------- Begin Sample Letter -----------------------------  
 
Dear Ms. Coates,  
 
I am writing to voice my objections to DOT's proposed information  
collection of airline passenger information published in the Federal  
Register, January 15, 2003, Pages 2101-2103. The proposed system is an  
affront to the personal liberties on which this nation was founded.  
Please rescind it.  
 
Signed,  
 
Your Name.  
 
------------------ End Sample Letter -----------------------------  
 
(Thanks to Dick Hazeleger for bringing this to my attention in time!) Pete
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« Reply #1 on: Feb 22nd, 2003, 7:56pm »
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This is an outrageous assault on the Privacy Act, as well as an affront to  
the privacy of law abiding U.S. citizens.

 
Not just USns either:
http://www.theregister.co.uk/content/6/29408.html
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« Reply #2 on: Feb 23rd, 2003, 12:11pm »
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Privacy Act is a law subject to change by other laws, it is not a Constitutionally protected right.  We give up certain rights to our government, when we live under the rule of that government, all governments by nature are coersive.  Only less government is effective, at curbing extremes.  However there is no right to air travel or privacy in air travel.  In fact it is one of the examples that government may actually be doing the right thing.
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« Reply #3 on: Feb 23rd, 2003, 12:19pm »
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on Feb 23rd, 2003, 12:11pm, Jamming wrote:
Privacy Act is a law subject to change by other laws, it is not a Constitutionally protected right.  We give up certain rights to our government, when we live under the rule of that government, all governments by nature are coersive.  Only less government is effective, at curbing extremes.  However there is no right to air travel or privacy in air travel.  In fact it is one of the examples that government may actually be doing the right thing.

 
 
I don't think that many would  dispute the need for increased secuirty in air travel. The issue is IMO, having gathered such an incredibly comprehensive database, must we take the US (or any other) goverenment on trust that said informtion will only be used for the specified purpose?
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« Reply #4 on: Feb 23rd, 2003, 12:40pm »
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Yeah but how many people fill out their census report no questions asked.  If you really don't trust your government it is time to get a new one, I don't trust individuals in government and feel there might be abuses.  But as long as there is a method of appeal and change, then I do trust my government as a whole to do the right thing in most cases.
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