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2 quick questions after upgrade
« on: Mar 30th, 2006, 1:04pm »		 Quote Quote  Modify Modify
Hello,
 
I just removed version 4.2. Per the instruction link, I also removed the folder for 4.2 and the folders for 4.0 and 4.1 as well.  
I rebooted and installed 4.5 with no issues. I do not use TH guard because I use webroot Spy Sweeper and it is active at all times and I do not want a conflict. Therefore, I have unchecked the load at startup box in THguard.  
Here atr my questions: Even though I unchecked the load at startup box in THguard, the enable box is still checked. What state should the enable box be in generally? Keep in mind that I do not as a rule run THguard.
 
My other question is with scheduling updates in windows xp task manager.
 
I removed both the live update and the scan scheduled tasks when the updates no longer worked in version 4.2
 
Are the instructions for setting up the live upodate and scan jobs the same in version 4.5. ?
 
If so, can you point me to the link to the instructions again?
 
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Re: 2 quick questions after upgrade
« Reply #1 on: Mar 30th, 2006, 1:59pm »		 Quote Quote  Modify Modify
First, moved your post only because the FAQ section is not really set up for general posting by users...just for procedures, etc., provided for all users.  No problemo  Wink
 
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Even though I unchecked the load at startup box in THguard, the enable box is still checked. What state should the enable box be in generally? Keep in mind that I do not as a rule run THguard.  

 
The Enable option can be left active.  It means that anytime you do load THGuard in memory it will start its work immediately.  
 
Using Spy Sweeper as a trojan guard is really not very safe.  Spy Sweeper is a spyware/adware monitor.  It does not have sufficient rules to adequately guard you against trojans.  It is weak in this area.  I use Spy Sweeper too, but only for my spyware/adware guarding.  Please evaluate the above statement and considering using THGuard as your real-time trojan guard.  TrojanHunter's primary focus is trojans.  Other malicious element detections are being added rapidly by Gavin, but it is not yet at the strength of Spy Sweeper for spyware/adware.  
 
Here are the links in the FAQs for scheduling using the Task Scheduler.    
 
TH Scanner
 
http://forum.misec.net/board/FAQ/1139255763
 
LiveUpdate
 
http://forum.misec.net/board/FAQ/1139260464
 
Holler if you can't get these to work on your system.  They work...so it will be a minor setup problem.
 
 
 
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Re: 2 quick questions after upgrade
« Reply #2 on: Mar 30th, 2006, 2:28pm »		 Quote Quote  Modify Modify
Thank you for the info,
 
So you are saying that you leave spysweeper and TH guard active at all times with no conflicts? If you are doing that, I will try so myself. I also use AVG professional. Do you have any experience with all 3 products together?
 
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« Reply #3 on: Mar 30th, 2006, 2:35pm »		 Quote Quote  Modify Modify
There is no conflict between Spy Sweeper, THGuard, and AVG.  
 
I run Spy Sweeper, THGuard and Norton Internet Security 2006... Real time.
 
HOWEVER-  I just downloaded the latest RuleSet for TrojanHunter and it has a false positive in it that causes THGuard to kick out of memory the Language.dll used by Spy Sweeper.  It detects this DLL falsely as TrojanSpy.Bank.879.  
 
I've emailed Gavin about it, but it may be a few hours before he gets this False Positive fixed because of time differences to Australia.
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Re: 2 quick questions after upgrade
« Reply #4 on: Mar 30th, 2006, 2:51pm »		 Quote Quote  Modify Modify
AHHH.. exactly the thing I am talking about. Can you say conflict?   Shocked
 
Just kidding for sure  Cheesy
 
I am going to leave TH guard off until the update is complete.
 
Would you be able to let me know when to downlaod via another response?
 
Thank you
 
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Re: 2 quick questions after upgrade
« Reply #5 on: Mar 30th, 2006, 3:01pm »		 Quote Quote  Modify Modify
Welll... a false positive is not a program conflict.  Wink  Even Spy Sweeper, AVG, and Norton have false positives every now and then.   Grin
 
Yes, I'll post when the FP gets fixed.
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Re: 2 quick questions after upgrade
« Reply #6 on: Mar 30th, 2006, 3:08pm »		 Quote Quote  Modify Modify
touche' you got me. you are correct. I am just curious. It doesnt auto remove the dll does it? I actually dont have too much experience with the workings of THguard
 
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« Reply #7 on: Mar 30th, 2006, 3:17pm »		 Quote Quote  Modify Modify
THGuard or the TH Scanner does NOT remove files that it detects as malicious.  It renames them by adding a .tcf extension.  For example, in this false positive, THGuard is kicking the DLL out of memory and it also renames it from Language.dll to Language.dll.tcf
 
All a user has to do is remove the .tcf extension and the file is back in business.
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Re: 2 quick questions after upgrade
« Reply #8 on: Mar 30th, 2006, 3:21pm »		 Quote Quote  Modify Modify
Got it. Thanks so much for the quick response
 
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Re: 2 quick questions after upgrade
« Reply #9 on: Mar 30th, 2006, 3:22pm »		 Quote Quote  Modify Modify
Fixed, and another update Smiley
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Re: 2 quick questions after upgrade
« Reply #10 on: Mar 30th, 2006, 3:34pm »		 Quote Quote  Modify Modify
Gavin, Thanks. I downloaded the update.
 
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Re: 2 quick questions after upgrade
« Reply #11 on: Mar 30th, 2006, 3:46pm »		 Quote Quote  Modify Modify
I just downloaded the new update and it still gives the TrojanSpy.Banker.879 False positive.
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Re: 2 quick questions after upgrade
« Reply #12 on: Mar 30th, 2006, 3:52pm »		 Quote Quote  Modify Modify
I havent loaded TH guard yet. I'm waiting for Gavin to sort it out. I did download the update, but did not test it
 
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Re: 2 quick questions after upgrade
« Reply #13 on: Mar 30th, 2006, 3:54pm »		 Quote Quote  Modify Modify
Hold off until it gets corrected on my box.  I'll holler when its cooked correctly.  Cheesy
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Re: 2 quick questions after upgrade
« Reply #14 on: Mar 30th, 2006, 3:55pm »		 Quote Quote  Modify Modify
siliconman01,
 
Are using spysweeper 4.5.9 (build 709) just curious
 
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