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Searching for a new AV
« on: Nov 17th, 2003, 1:35pm »		 Quote Quote  Modify Modify
 Hello  ,
 
  I've been using  NAV  for  years  and  never had a problem since the 2002 version was released ( without the 2001/ POP3 issues) .
  My  2003's license will expired on 2004 and  I am thinking about  using  another AV  by  two motives :a) Symantec's AV design does not  offer configuration options  to , say, more curious or advanced users and  b) No  problem with the new ativation à la M$ but  I  do not agree with  Symantec controlling how  many times I could format or install new hardware during my one year license.
 
  My  options  are :
 
1) Kaspersky  , which I'm not using because when I tried it in the past I installed the PRO version *full* and it was a real resource hog . I am sure that  a custom installation of the  KAV personal  version should solve that - KAV would be my first choice.
 
2) McAfee  , but  the two times I tried it ( the download trial version and a bought CD-box  version - gave to one of my nephews  ) both times I had serious freeze  problems . And  , now , there is a vendor's windown that imposes itself  with ads  about  others McAfee's products to its licensed users - I don't accept that kind of "spam" in a payed product   .
 
3) NOD32 , which I liked very much for its speed when I tried in the past but wouldn't use it for two reasons : a)  the several Vampirefo's testings I've read at DSL Security Forum on NOD32  and  b) a  non-critical  approach at  its  official forum at Wilders   - I do not like to participate in cults .
 
   Any  others  AVs  suggestions ?
 
 
    Regards  ,
 
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« Reply #1 on: Nov 17th, 2003, 1:52pm »		 Quote Quote  Modify Modify
I had the same "problem" not too long ago.
 
NAV - never had a problem with this AV, but it can't be properly configured
 
KAV - it rocks, but it proved to be a "resource hog" on my computer, so I couldn't use it. I do hope KAV 5.0 will be a bit less "resource-hungry"
 
McAfee - another good AV, but it gave me too many problems
 
NOD32 - maybe it's not as good as KAV and McAfee, but it gives you many options to configure it and it is very light on resources, too.
I couldn't think of any other good AV's, so I decided to give NOD32 a try. All in all, this AV has always achieved good results in many AV tests, so it can't be that bad.
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« Reply #2 on: Nov 17th, 2003, 2:13pm »		 Quote Quote  Modify Modify
Take a look at Dr. Web, very sensitive to false positives but also very sensative to new unknown detections.
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Re: Searching for a new AV
« Reply #3 on: Nov 17th, 2003, 2:22pm »		 Quote Quote  Modify Modify
Hey Jamming,
Didn't you try NormanAV?What's your opinion? Smiley
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Re: Searching for a new AV
« Reply #4 on: Nov 17th, 2003, 2:32pm »		 Quote Quote  Modify Modify
To much money for average level of protection and to many independent modules running.
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« Reply #5 on: Nov 17th, 2003, 2:38pm »		 Quote Quote  Modify Modify
Thanks for the quick answer Smiley
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« Reply #6 on: Nov 17th, 2003, 2:52pm »		 Quote Quote  Modify Modify
 Buddel  ,  my first   problem with NOD32 is  all  the tests vampirefo  did - and I respect  vampirefo knowledge on malware .Besides , there is  that  "cult" aspect I said .
  Jamming  ,  Dr.WEB  seems  to  much  based on heuristics and I prefer  a  signature based  AV .
   I've  also considered   Sophos AV but it seems that its main target is the corporate client.
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Re: Searching for a new AV
« Reply #7 on: Nov 17th, 2003, 2:56pm »		 Quote Quote  Modify Modify
Well there are other versions being sold using the DR. Web engine, my understanding that it is not purely heuristics.
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« Reply #8 on: Nov 17th, 2003, 3:05pm »		 Quote Quote  Modify Modify
 I  didn't  know  about  that , Jamming . Are  you  saying  others AVs  using  Dr.WEB's engine , like F-Secure uses the KAV one ?
 
 No , it is not  purely  heuristic but it's  heavily heuristic I think .
Perhaps it could be a nice second AV running on demand ; heuristics as an optional check , a second opinion .
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Re: Searching for a new AV
« Reply #9 on: Nov 17th, 2003, 3:14pm »		 Quote Quote  Modify Modify
Viruschaser uses the Dr. Web Engine it was mentioned.
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« Reply #10 on: Nov 17th, 2003, 4:02pm »		 Quote Quote  Modify Modify
on Nov 17th, 2003, 2:52pm, mozar wrote:
 Buddel  ,  my first   problem with NOD32 is  all  the tests vampirefo  did - and I respect  vampirefo knowledge on malware .Besides , there is  that  "cult" aspect I said .
    

I also respect Vampirefo's knowledge, but at least according to many other tests, NOD32 is pretty good. I don't like this "cult" aspect either, but what am I supposed to do? NOD32 hasn't caused any problems on my computer so far, so I don't think it would be a good idea if I used another AV that I like less just because of this annoying aspect. I'm still pinning all my hopes on KAV 5.0. Maybe this will be my next AV. Who knows. Smiley
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Re: Searching for a new AV
« Reply #11 on: Nov 17th, 2003, 8:49pm »		 Quote Quote  Modify Modify
 I discovered  a  very interesting and unique  feature  KAV  has .
 
  Two different  and  optional kinds of  database  that you can download  when updating KAV : Extend and Paranoia Database Options .
   I  understood  that  KAV's  users have  the normal daily update and also two more  "extensions" to include if he/she wants when updating .
 
  Read  here  :
 
http://www.kaspersky.com/support.html?chapter=950167
 
 
 
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« Reply #12 on: Nov 17th, 2003, 9:16pm »		 Quote Quote  Modify Modify
You looked at Sophos? If virus tests are worth anything, SophosAV has ben a top-3 finisher since, well, about forever! Probably not the cheapest, but is at least a bit cheaper than Norman. And, AFAIK, they haven't shipped a virus in a def-file update yet... Grin
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« Reply #13 on: Nov 17th, 2003, 10:08pm »		 Quote Quote  Modify Modify
 Ian  ,  when  you  said  " ...And, AFAIK, they haven't shipped a virus in a def-file update yet... "  it's  about  what  AV  vendor ,  if  you  don't mind ?
 
  About  Sophos  , I  tought it was  targeted  at  corporate  customers . Am  I  wrong ?
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« Reply #14 on: Nov 17th, 2003, 10:20pm »		 Quote Quote  Modify Modify
Yup, KAV let one slip by about 9 months back. They corrected it very soon after, though.
 
Sophos - I think there's a personal version, but I haven't used it anywhere other than work at the moment.
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